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Barack Obama Speech Thread

by Todd Beeton, Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:10:20 PM EST

Barack Obama has taken the stage to presumably declare victory for the Democratic nomination.

Update [2008-6-3 22:15:50 by Todd Beeton]:"After 54 hard-fought contests, this primary has finally come to an end."

"Because you chose to listen not to your doubts or your fears but to your greatest hopes and highest aspirations."

"...I will be the Democratic nominee for the President of the United States of America."

Who can not be moved at this moment?

Update [2008-6-3 22:21:18 by Todd Beeton]:He's praising Hillary Clinton and the crowd is cheering. That's a nice development (the cheering I mean.) "I can tell you that what gets Hillary Clinton up in the morning..an unyielding desirte to fight for ordinary Americans no matter how hard the fight may be. And when we finally achieve universal healthcare, she will be central to that victory...I am a better candidate for having had the honor to compete with Hillary Rodham Clinton." A great tribute.

Update [2008-6-3 22:27:26 by Todd Beeton]:OK, Barack Obama just delivered perhaps the best line against John McCain all year: "I honor John McCain's service to this country...even if he refuses to honor mine." It. Is. On.

Update [2008-6-3 22:32:27 by Todd Beeton]:Umm, does anyone really think right now that John McCain has a freakin chance?

Update [2008-6-3 22:42:12 by Todd Beeton]:"America, our time is now. The journey will be difficult, the road will be long. I face this challenge with humility...with limitless faith in the capacity of the American poeple..." This is the best speech I have ever seen him give. And it was a speech that was a commitment to progressive policy. I've never seen him be so fearlessly liberal with his rhetoric. That was an incredible speech, very moving. I hope we can all get behind our nominee and the next president of the United States.

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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

That's a big crowd.

A really big crowd.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:11:04 PM EST

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Yeah, and its funny that to equal it, McCain has to bring GOPers from all 50 states.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:04 PM EST
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McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

Maybe with a Laffer-endorsed, pays-for-itself inverse-fundraiser where he pays people $2000 to sit down in front of a plate of overcooked chicken while he rambles on about 9/11, the line item veto, and Metamucil.

by notxjack on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:46:44 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

I have to think that will all the Delegates, Party Big wigs, Bloggers, press, and family that the GOP convention gets that same number... If not, BOY that would be embarassing.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:49:08 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

Yeah, he's an amazingly clever tactician. Now if we could just get Hillary to work with him as a debate coach we would have the best of both worlds.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:51:04 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

Or Edwards.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:03:11 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

Good point.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:09:28 PM EST
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God I miss JRE. (none / 0)

Looking forward to seeing him as A.G.

by notxjack on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:42:13 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

17k inside plus 15k outside?

I've never been to one of these things, do you usually have that many people there? It seems like a heck of a lot of people at any time.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:51:32 PM EST
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Re: McCain can pull those #'s? (none / 0)

I went to a rally with around 20k, and it was an endless sea of humanity as far as the eye could see.

So yeah. That's a lot of people.

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:57:23 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

This crowd, tonight, may be one of the most expert pieces of political stagecraft of this truly remarkable cycle. While we've been whinging about Clinton versus Obama, they've been thinking about the Summer... and a summer's worth of Convention B-Roll.

Think of that week of GOP convention coverage in the Twin Cities. What will the 24-hour nets have to show? They will have footage of Obama speaking on the very same floor filling the very same seats that McCain will be addressing on final night of that event -- so they will show those clips over and over again -- full Obama chairs with full Obama quotes and loud crowds cheering -- while empty seats are being set up and balloons are filled and O'Reilly and Hannity blather on and on and on...

Brilliant!

Fight the Smears!

by Lettuce on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:51:38 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

You know while I was waiting in line for 2 hours in a line that snaked for 20 through St. Paul, I was thinking the same thing. He going on their turf. Awesome!!! This has been a brillantly ran campaign. Obama is going to be a great President!!!

Someone mentioned the crown tonight above. The Xcel Center holds 18,000+ for hockey and the workers said it holds around 25,000 for this event. The place was full and I heard they turned a few people away. It was a great night and totally worth the wait.

by chewie5656 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:03:31 AM EST
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Should be a good contrast (2.00 / 4)

with McCain's speech. Need to remember to thank McCain for providing his dull monotone on this great night.

John McCain wants to make abortion illegal

by Lost Thought on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:12:00 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Obama won I'm so ashamed at what Hillary did.

by Hillarywillwin on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:13:19 PM EST

what'd she do? (none / 0)

She do something tonight? or are you talking in the past?

by DawnG on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:50 PM EST
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Re: what'd she do? (2.00 / 6)

Her non-concession speech was classless.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:17 PM EST
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Classless? (2.00 / 2)

By that I assume you mean that she didn't grovel on her hands and knees and praise and worship Obama.

You've got to be kidding. Just because Obama has millions of believers doesn't mean Hillary is chopped liver. The media has discounted for months, yet she just won two elections in two days. That says a lot.

by gooderservice on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:26:17 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (2.00 / 2)

There's a huge difference between "I ran a great campaign, but it appears that Barack Obama has secured enough delegates" and "I ran a great campaign".

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:30:24 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (2.00 / 3)

She gave an Obama-vs-Clinton speech. That contest is over - such a speech serves only to increase the bitterness we have right now.

The primaries are over!
Focus on McCain

by really not a troll on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:30:42 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (2.00 / 2)

Enough. Smell the coffee. She did not do herself proud. She could have done much better. Obama's speech (whether those emotionally attached to Clinton want to see the truth or not), proved why he is the better candidate and WILL WIN in Nov.

I thought Obama/Clinton would be a good team. Now, she lost me as any kind of supporter. She came across as the smaller, less classy opponent. If she doesn't concede by Thursday, I'm joining a whole host of folks that emailed me about switching from the Dem party to Independent and naming Clinton as the reason. WE'll all vote for Obama, but as independents-- not as Dems.

Way to go Hillary! You did the party proud!

by citizensane on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:49:03 PM EST
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don't inject assumptions. (none / 0)

One can have the grace to admit their opponant has won in a hard fought contest without "groveling".

It's not an either/or situation.

But, the question is (and I didn't see Clinton's speech so I can't comment) was she graceful or was she obstinant?

by DawnG on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:57:36 PM EST
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She talked about (none / 0)

"the best nominee."

She talked about "the popular vote."

You be the judge.

by Rorgg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:46:02 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (2.00 / 1)

It was time to start the healing. She even had his speech ahead of time (we all did -- it was leaked). His speech was extraordinarily complimentary of Clinton and her efforts. Her speech refused to acknowledge that by the time she started speaking, Obama had the delegates he needed to win.

Unfortunately, she continues to think this is all about her. The best politicians recognize political reality and plan how to ensure they get the best possible result out of whatever the reality is. She seems to continue to think she's in a contest with Obama. Her best bet is to swivel and work like hell to get him elected. She is so far out on a limb now that if he loses, some will always blame her for it. And that will NOT be to her political benefit in the Senate or in a future campaign.

by Headlight on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:12:24 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (1.00 / 6)

But it does give one hope--that maybe she has damaged him enough that he will lose. Already the RNC is using her comments about Obama not being ready to be commander in chief against him. It gives one hope.

by doyenne49 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:20:33 PM EST
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Re: Classless? (none / 0)

go join redstate...

by IowaMike on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:29:17 AM EST
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Re: Classless? (none / 0)

Comments like this will make the victory even sweeter. Go take a look at McCan'ts Tuesday night speech -- that's what give me more than a hope that Obama's going to be making history. Now go back under your bridge, Troll. . .

by Headlight on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 11:05:44 PM EST
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Re: what'd she do? (2.00 / 3)

Let it go.

Maybe its just too hard for her to say any more right now.

Maybe she just wants another day or two to get her bearings.

She's fought hard and long. I didn't agree with most of what she did, but its over now and we need to be gracious in victory.

by ronik on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:50:42 PM EST
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Re: what'd she do? (2.00 / 3)

She's a professional. Surely she knew what was coming. I would imagine it's hard, and I don't welcome her pain right now -- but if she she imagines she has the qualifications to run the country, she must have the qualifications to run a campaign, and that requires the class to concede that campaign when it is done.

It is done.

She should have been big and gracious.

She was neigher. And that was sad to witness from a woman worthy of better.

Fight the Smears!

by Lettuce on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:54:39 PM EST
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Re: what'd she do? (2.00 / 3)

CNN is slamming that notion.... that it's "hard for her'... it was supposed to be "her night"... no, it's not... He won. She lost. It wasn't her night. It was his. She should have showed some class...

It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)

by LordMike on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:04:49 PM EST
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Re: what'd she do? (none / 0)

Way to spoil the mood.

by Covin on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:27:10 AM EST
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Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (2.00 / 1)

give Clinton her two days if she needs them. If shes not out by Friday, then we got a problem

DEMOCRATIC 08!

by rigsoHC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:14:16 PM EST

Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (2.00 / 1)

He had to declare. The audience, the attention, crossing the actual threshold, he had no choice.

Unprodded, his audience did cheer her louder than her audience applauded him.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:02 PM EST
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Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (none / 0)

I think that's partially a function of crowd size, partially a function of the fact that it's a lot easier to be gracious in victory.

The primaries are over!
Focus on McCain

by really not a troll on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:21 PM EST
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Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (none / 0)

Yeah I give him credit for not reacting to her speech.

I read the transcript for this on KOS. It's unbelievable... may be better than the 2004 Convention Speech and the Race speech he gave after Wright. The words made me tear up.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:24:24 PM EST
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Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (none / 0)

I was crying and laughing and shrieking and coming and finally I passed out with bliss and savage joy.

by doyenne49 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:22:35 PM EST
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Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (none / 0)

Wow!

I wish I'd watched the speech with you!

We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And clowns.

by haremoor on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:03:59 AM EST
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Re: Soon Obama, not quite yet (officially) (none / 0)

"I'll have what she's having." What movie?

by IowaMike on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:35:20 AM EST
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When Harry Met Sally. (none / 0)

It was indeed a great speech. I watched it on CNN (it's the only cable news my college gets, sadly), and as the speech went on, my friends--who disdain politics and laugh at me for getting involved--slowly migrated over and parked themselves on the couch to watch. By the end, they were as engrossed as I was!

Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?

by Elsinora on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 02:22:34 AM EST
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Victory... (none / 0)

He is making it a victory speech!

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:15:01 PM EST

Re: Victory... (2.00 / 2)

Which is consistent with reality.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:08 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

That's a fired up crowd!

by Lawyerish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:15:50 PM EST

and ready to go (none / 0)

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:54 PM EST
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Re: and ready to go (none / 0)

Been to a rally have you?

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:25:07 PM EST
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Re: and ready to go (none / 0)

Sadly, no. But I imagine the energy is palpable.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:27:12 PM EST
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Re: and ready to go (none / 0)

Trust me. It is.

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:31:07 PM EST
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There, he declared he's the nominee. (2.00 / 2)

He certainly sounds presidential.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:16:04 PM EST

Listen to his audience cheering her. (2.00 / 4)

That's class there.

No boos. No BS. No "Denver". Just support as Democrats.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:44 PM EST

In all fairness (2.00 / 1)

It's easier to be forgiving when you're winning. Your self-defensive fog-of-war can lift sooner.

John McCain wants to make abortion illegal

by Lost Thought on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:52 PM EST
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Re: In all fairness (none / 0)

Jinx.

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:21:53 PM EST
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Re: Listen to his audience cheering her. (none / 0)

To be fair, it's easier to be a gracious winner than a gracious loser.

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:21:24 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Look how gracious he is being to Hillary.

Shame it couldn't work the other way around.

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Massadonious on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:17:47 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Did you see the props he gave her for universal healthcare?

A PROUD Hopium user!

by xodus1914 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:29 PM EST
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Obama not in a Basement (none / 0)

Notice the Obama people aren't in a Bubble like Hillary Clinton audience was. Apparently the basement had no way for them to know Obama won. They isolated themselves in a basement cut off from the world.

by Hillarywillwin on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:03 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Lol, Obama didn't get the memo that if your opponent doesn't concede, you aren't allowed to call it a victory.

Of course, I don't think Ron Paul has conceded to McCain officially either...

by KyleJRM on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:05 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

At the end of a football game, it doesn't really matter if the losing team "concedes."

The points are the points.

The delegates are the delegates.

And it's GAME OVER, man!

by erzeszut on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:24:17 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

It doesn't really matter. As long as the media declare the victory, its over.

And for the record, We are STILL waiting for Alan Keyes to concede the 2004 Senate Election.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:27:01 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

The Republican Party of Illinois conceded the race by nominating him after Ditka turned it down.

by KyleJRM on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:31:39 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

LOL...

Shows just how bad Oberweis was... The guy is the runner up in the Primary AND THE GOP PICKS A CARPET BAGGING LOSER LIKE KEYES. Amazing.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:09 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 0)

The best part is that Oberweis just keeps running, thinking people want to vote for him or something.

They don't. The Republicans in Illinois don't even want to vote for him.

by KyleJRM on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:40:48 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 0)

It will be nice to see Foster kick his ass again in November.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:41:47 PM EST
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Next Year's SuperBowl (none / 0)

will end anywhere between the final buzzer and whenever the losing team concedes. Therefore no bets will be paid until that happens.

by Eman on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:22:57 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

Thank you Minnesota. Cheered when he mentioned Hillary. So proud of ya.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:08 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 3)

Yes! Go Obama. Being real honest about Hillary and what she believes in, which is of course what he believes in, and that's close enough to what I believe in...

...so I'm very happy.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:18 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

cheering for hillary

by Monolithic on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:20 PM EST

Because Obama spporters are Democrats... (2.00 / 2)

...who love their country.

by Hesiod Theogeny on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:19 PM EST
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And by implication, (none / 0)

her supporters are not?

Just asking for clarification.

by aggieric on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:35:09 PM EST
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They certainly love Denver, at least. n/t (2.00 / 1)

by notxjack on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:50:58 PM EST
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Maybe they're all Rockies fans? (none / 0)

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:55:05 PM EST
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We Obama supporters are Democrats (2.00 / 0)

Who love our country every bit as much as Hillary supporters love our country. And we all hate the rethugs. It will be GREAT to win together in November. Go DEMOCRATS!

by susanWAstate on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:12:24 PM EST
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The ones hanging out with Larry Sinclair... (none / 0)

...and getting his autograph at the PBC, you mean?

by Hesiod Theogeny on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:27:07 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

I'm in tears here...

Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>

by ipsos on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:18:37 PM EST

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Me too. I cried so hard I ruptured my spleen. It's like taking a direct hit of ecstasy to the sternum.

by doyenne49 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:24:11 PM EST
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Me too, we are so screwed (1.00 / 1)

As much as I hate to say it, Obama won't get us back into the White House. Hillary might have. he won't. :(

by SueBee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:59:22 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Who, indeed?

by Shaun Appleby on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:19:22 PM EST

Obama's showing class and grace,,,, (2.00 / 3)

...in his praise for Hillary. The opposite of her self-absorbed, speech.

by Hesiod Theogeny on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:19:39 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 0)

Very classy shout-out to Clinton. Supporters are into it as well.

Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics

by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:19:45 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

He's being very complimentary of Clinton right now. Wow. Obama/Clinton?

by politicalfan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:19:50 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

i hope not

he's just trying to reach out to her voters i think

by Monolithic on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:41 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Yes, I hope he's smart enough to listen to YOU on this score.

by doyenne49 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:25:04 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

I take that back. I don't think he'll picj her for vp, but maybe a cabinet pos.

by politicalfan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:21:05 PM EST
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Secretary of Health & Human Services? (none / 0)

That would fit with the mention about Clinton's roll with healthcare. The question is if she would accept. Obama has mentioned admiration of Lincoln and how he reached out and made his oponents members of his cabinet. That also bodes well for Edwards as AG, which I think would be fantastic.

by protothad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:48:02 PM EST
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Re: Secretary of Health & Human Services? (none / 0)

Edwards isn't exactly a political enemy any longer. :P But he'd make a terrific Attorney General.

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by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:36:20 PM EST
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Why would she want that? (none / 0)

Being a Senator is better than being in the cabinet. No one cares about who is running Ded or HHS. No one even knows who they are.

by SueBee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:22:27 PM EST
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Re: Why would she want that? (2.00 / 1)

Yep - I want her as either Majority Leader or Chair of Senate Finance (which has jurisdiction over Medicare and probably any real health care reform legislation.)

by geordie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:33:24 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Either that or "I don't hate her, I admire her, I just think she'd be better over there."

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:21:36 PM EST
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Olive branch is out... (2.00 / 3)

Please accept it Hillary, we do need you in the Senate to get UHC passed. We need you to fight THERE, not in Denver.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:05 PM EST

so far (none / 0)

he's much more gracious and conciliatory than she has been.

by southernman on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:06 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

See, this is what you do. He's gracious, classy, respectful.

Obama is about the we. HRC is about the I.

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:14 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

On CNN, there was a great comment that this was an opportunity for Hillary to show humility and the ability to play second fiddle to Obama. This is a NECESSARY quality in a VP. She did not show it - she used her speech not to share the spotlight, but to occupy it herself. CNN's pushing that she shot herself in the foot, giving a speech like this right now, if she truly wants the VP position.

McCain: because not everyone's ready to say goodbye to W yet!

by Matt Smith on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:12:13 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Update [2008-6-3 22:15:50 by Todd Beeton]:"After 54 hard-fought contests, this primary has finally come to an end."

"Because you chose to listen not to your doubts or your fears but to your greatest hopes and highest aspirations."

"...I will be the Democratic nominee for the President of the United States of America."

Who can not be moved at this moment?

Hillary. And maybe Alegre.

But that audience response for Hillary is quite impressive.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:18 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Where is Alegre tonight? Haven't seen the daily Hate diary.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:28:55 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

She's in the HRC's NY bunker, I'd imagine.

by notxjack on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:52:58 PM EST
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Compare Obama on Hillary vs. Hillary on Obama (2.00 / 0)

I don't even think I need to comment. He is still graciously singing her praises as I type this. I'm not going to say the less charitable things I'm thinking about her comments.

by quixote27 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:25 PM EST

Re: Compare Obama on Hillary vs. Hillary on Obama (2.00 / 0)

He is a much more gracious human being than I.
And I am very glad that he is.

Ida B. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.-Mark Twain

by Ida B on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:29 PM EST
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Re: Compare Obama on Hillary vs. Hillary on Obama (2.00 / 1)

Seriously, I won't deny that there is obviously SOME political calculation in being nice - but it was still very gracious. I don't understand how she thinks threatening him is a good way to get the VP? Just very very odd...

by quixote27 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:27:45 PM EST
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Re: Compare Obama on Hillary vs. Hillary on Obama (none / 0)

I don't understand how she thinks threatening him is a good way to get the VP? Just very very odd...

Word.

by Oly on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:00 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Uplifting.

by nzubechukwu on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:20:50 PM EST

Uplifting (none / 0)

Yeah, he always sounds like a good preacher.

by SueBee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:24:05 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

what a effing class act.

how could you hate that?

by alyssa chaos on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:21:01 PM EST

Obama is so impressive, no way he doesnt (2.00 / 2)

win G.E, this vs boring old mccain

DEMOCRATIC 08!

by rigsoHC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:24 PM EST

Re: Obama is so impressive, no way he doesnt (none / 0)

Speeches are great, but he'll have to do more.

He should destroy McCain in debates, but we'll have to see how it all shakes down. The Clinton factor is the biggest question mark right now.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:26:28 PM EST
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i agree with that, she holds (none / 0)

some power right now, i think she could literally cost him the election if she says 4 little words to her supporters "dont vote for Obama" Of course, if she wanted a future she would never, but just having that power must have a lot of thoughts racing through Clintons head

DEMOCRATIC 08!

by rigsoHC on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:30:33 PM EST
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McCain will wish he didn't schedule (none / 0)

a televised speech tonight. Back to back with Obama he got crushed. They won't let that happen again, guaranteed.

by 79blondini on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:56:15 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Boos! Boos reserved for the Republican convention.

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by BishopRook on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:39 PM EST

I think the Republicans picked the wrong city (none / 0)

but then, what city wouldn't be hostile to them these days?

John McCain wants to make abortion illegal

by Lost Thought on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:15 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Passion and desire. He's trying to turn the chapter. The ONLY ? left is AMERICA, ( MI,VA, OH, FL, and other swing states) going to allow him to try to begin a new tomorrow?

by nzubechukwu on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:22:53 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

What a difference between him and her. What a difference. Guy's a class act and America got the right President today thank god!

by Graham1979 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:23:22 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

"I respect John McCain's accomplishments, even if he denies mine." LOL

by politicalfan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:23:30 PM EST

Haha, classic quote.. (2.00 / 3)

"...and I respect his many accomplishments...even if he chooses to deny mine."

Ace.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:23:49 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

And he spends most of his speech hitting McCain.
The way it should be!
Man, I feel like going outside and doing something for my country!

I feel like how conservatives must have felt about Reagan!

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by xodus1914 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:26:36 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 4)

I'm impressed so far. Obama is much more gracious when he doesn't feel threatened. His extended covering of Hillary Clinton's issues was classy, and he is taking McCain on respectfully. Both tacks are smart.

by souvarine on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:26:37 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 0)

Agreed. I think he will feel very comfortable going after a Republican as opposed to a fellow Democrat.
All us Democrats have to do is keep the 527s off of him, and he will crush Grampy McSame!

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by xodus1914 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:31:44 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

"I honor John McCain's service to this country...even if he refuses to honor mine."

That was an awesome line alright!

Way to go Presumptive Democratic Presidential Nominee Barack Obama.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:28:49 PM EST

What did he mean? (none / 0)

What service? Was Obama in the service? Or did he mean his time in the Senate? I didn't get that.

by SueBee on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:02:45 AM EST
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Re: What did he mean? (none / 0)

The point being that military service is not the only way to serve your country. Organizing communities is a service to the country. Volunteering is service to the country. Getting involved in politics to better your community, state, or the nation as a whole is service to your country. There are a lot of ways to serve your country, and it's important to encourage and honor all forms of service.

by fangthang on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 05:09:34 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Nice rebuttal to McSain's Iraq proposal.

by nzubechukwu on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:32:10 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Holy fukin' barnburner! What a moment.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:32:32 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 7)

He just made 17 long months bearable and stated very clearly that this is not about him or Hillary Clinton (smart and classy) but about America. I'm proud to be a Clinton supporter. I don't care what anyone says, her speech was brilliant and what was needed. I honestly have to say that I'm now even prouder to be an Obama supporter. His humility was stunning. His passion was obvious. What an incredible candidate we have chosen. I don't think he will have a very hard time, but the combination of hearing Hillary then Barrack just kicked my ass into working my ass off for Obama to be certain he gets elected.

John McCain is a liar. Erratic, poor judgment.

by Jeter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:51:45 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Jeter, you're a hell of a democrat (and a damn fine shortstop too)!

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:57:43 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Yeah I was worried a little about when I would hit my first home run of the season. But not anymore.

John McCain is a liar. Erratic, poor judgment.

by Jeter on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 02:49:28 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Go, Jeter!!!

(However much it pains me to say that as a Mets fan.)

by JoeW on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:04:23 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

Is it, like, really painful? Cause I'm a Yankees and a Mets fan, and I'm just saying that the Mets have me a little worried right now.

John McCain is a liar. Erratic, poor judgment.

by Jeter on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 02:40:02 AM EST
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Man St. Paul is going crazy right now (2.00 / 1)

Barack is knocking this speech out of the park...

Amazing, the crowd is so fired up, I can't imagine what it is like in the X.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:04 PM EST

Re: Man St. Paul is going crazy right now (none / 0)

Hey, sg, YOU had the chance to go and passed it up. Will you remember your homework 20 years from now? ;-)

Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>

by ipsos on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:46:47 PM EST
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I hope I will (none / 0)

Knowing what drugs to prescribe to people is important isn't it, Obama will be back in the TC sometime before November, I promise to go to that no matter what I have to do.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:59:14 PM EST
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Re: I hope I will (none / 0)

Yeah, yeah, be the responsible one tonight and make me feel guilty, why don't you?

OK if I do the celebratory drinking for both of us, then?

Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>

by ipsos on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 11:04:16 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 3)

Obama has secured,vacum packed, welded,and super glued my vote and then sealed it with a kiss.

hjahaahaa

by alyssa chaos on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:19 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 0)

wow the crowd is gigantic

that "yes we can" was thunderous

by Monolithic on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:34 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

It's kind of a dual-edged sword at the moment. The crowd is occasionally jumping on the punch line, so he ends up having to yell.

Meanwhile, John McCain just had to yell at his crowd too. They nodded off again.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:35:08 PM EST
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Damn... (2.00 / 3)

Brilliant, brilliant speech. I wonder whether McCain realizes how incredibly screwed he is.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:33:56 PM EST

Interesting (none / 0)

He passed on an easy Iraq dig on the "visits" issue and went straight through the economic laundry list.

Talking about this debate on the issues, I have this mental image of Obama standing in the middle of the ring saying "You want some, come get some!"

And, at the same time, he's trying to unite the country. This speech is really well done.

by TCQuad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:01 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

I am so glad Obama won the ticket.

I hope that Hillary will agree to be VP. Hillary is HAWT! and Obama is sexy cool.

by agpc on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:19 PM EST

That would definitely be a sexy ticket. n/t (none / 0)

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:36:42 PM EST
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