MyDD :: Will the real Democrats please stand up?

Will the real Democrats please stand up?

by andrewalker08, Fri May 30, 2008 at 09:46:32 AM EST

That's the question the Georgia Democratic Party's 4th Congressional District Chair, Linda Edmonds, is asking just one day before the Democratic National Committee's rules & bylaws committee meets to determine whether all votes will count from all fifty states.

In a letter to the editor appearing in this morning's Atlanta Journal Constitution (AJC), Edmonds writes:

...the Democratic machine, led by Howard Dean, is refusing to count the votes of not only Florida but Michigan in order to hand the nomination to Obama. I can live with either Clinton or Obama as the Democratic nominee just as long as all the votes cast in primaries held by all 50 state governments are counted. Whoever actually wins, wins.

What I cannot stomach is skewing the primary for either Clinton or Obama by giving any state less than its legally certified vote counts and number of delegates. The Democratic Party has always stood for counting all the votes. Will the real Democrats please stand up?

Source: 5/30/2008 AJC LTE "Democrats must count all votes"

The decision that the National Democratic Party's rules committee must make this weekend is really a no-brainer. The verdict should be that Democrats should count all the votes. Not half the votes. Not a third of the votes. Not three-fifths of the votes, but all of the votes.

Anything less would be a travesty to our democracy.

Tags: Florida, Michigan, Democratic National Committee (all tags)

Permalink :: 21 Comments :: Post a Comment

Tips & Recs For Counting ALL The Votes (2.00 / 6)

by andrewalker08 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 09:47:10 AM EST

thanks for embarrassing florida AGAIN... (none / 0)

i guess "real democrats" (by that idiot's estimation) believe that you should give republicans more ammunition to beat over the head of us lesser (read: florida) democrats with. how pathetic.

fuck 'em. florida democrats will rebuild our decimated political infrastructure DESPITE the need for cheap georgian politicians to undermine us. we don't your "help" -- please leave florida out of your pathetic attempts to divide the party.

btw, our votes counted. tell your idiot party leaders in georgia that for us, will ya? we'll start taking your (georgia's) advice when y'all start doing better for democrats, doncha know...

"This is the time for resolve and steady leadership" -- Barack Obama

by bored now on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:37:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tips & Recs For Counting ALL The Votes (none / 0)

I agree. Count all the votes.

Please enlighten me as to your method for counting the votes of people who stayed home on election day because they trusted Hillary Clinton, the other candidates, and the DNC when all those parties said that the election wasn't going to count.

Or are you okay with disenfranchising those people?

Join the Matthew 25 Network and help Democrats win the next generation of evangelicals.

by mistersite on Fri May 30, 2008 at 11:22:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (2.00 / 2)

The verdict should be that Democrats should count all the votes. Not half the votes. Not a third of the votes. Not three-fifths of the votes, but all of the votes.

Anything less would be a travesty to our democracy.

All of the votes will be counted, half the delegates will be seated.

by RP McMurphy on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:03:24 AM EST

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (none / 0)

And that makes Obama very, very happy, I'm sure.

by zenful6219 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:05:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (none / 0)

If all the votes were counted and all the delegates were counted, it would make Clinton very very happy. I am sure.

However, what was the understanding everyone had before the election? What is the rule everyone agreed to? You want to change the rule to make yourself happy, good for you but it will not happen. Rules are rules. You know it. Even if it makes you sad.

Obama 08!

by comingawakening on Fri May 30, 2008 at 11:56:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (2.00 / 2)

Where was her letter about this 9 months ago?

by NeverNude on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:03:37 AM EST

Delayed outrage (2.00 / 1)

is the best kind of outrage.

This letter would have merited attention 9 months ago, now it just looks petty.

by notme54 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:05:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

no, it's just a cheap political stunt by some... (none / 0)

idiot georgia pol. pay no mind to this pathetic attempt to divide the party by "real democrats." they are about as "real" as georgia plantations...

"This is the time for resolve and steady leadership" -- Barack Obama

by bored now on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:39:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]

They were all counted (2.00 / 2)

the delegates will not be seated in full because the states broke the rules.

If they didn't break the rules this whole thing never would have come up.

If the residents of FL & MI are so outraged then they should vote everyone who let this happen out of office.

by notme54 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:03:59 AM EST

But why are the Iowa (none / 0)

New Hampshire and South Carolina delegations being seated in full? They broke the rules too....

by aggieric on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:29:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]

They got waivers (none / 0)

which means that they didn't break the rules.
C'mon.

by notme54 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:35:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Yes, "c'mon" indeed. Why did they (none / 0)

receive waivers?

by aggieric on Fri May 30, 2008 at 11:02:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

You don't know? (none / 0)

Is this whole deal brand new to you?

by notme54 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 11:07:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]

our votes were counted... (none / 0)

and i don't know a single floridian who didn't know about the party sanctions before they voted. we got what we expected (although we'd like more -- this being florida and all). i'm not finding any outrage by people in the i-4 corridor, in fact, it's hard to find people who care about this (who don't have a convention seat at stake).

what we don't need is some stupid georgian politician trying to tell us what "real" democrats should do. we're already getting the crap beat out of us about all the mistakes that democratic supervisors of elections have made by republicans. we don't need supposed democrats from georgia reinforcing gop campaign messages for their own personal aggrandizement. they should worry about their own problems, because georgia sure has 'em.

"This is the time for resolve and steady leadership" -- Barack Obama

by bored now on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:45:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

the votes have been counted (none / 0)

this is about delegates.

by JJE on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:07:42 AM EST

Clinton Campaign Announces (none / 0)

Over 125 Additional Members to Georgia Campaign Leadership

Linda Edmonds, Democratic Activist; Decatur

Shocking

by notme54 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:09:12 AM EST

Re: Clinton Campaign Announces (none / 0)

How dare you assume this is about politics when all the evidence* suggests it isn't?

*Evidence being what Linda just said, not what Hillary or Linda just did.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:23:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I agree (none / 0)

its legally certified vote counts and number of delegates.

As of now, the DNC has legally certified ZERO delegates to each. That number may change. Whatever the RBC decides will then be the legally certified number.

by Rorgg on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:19:54 AM EST

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (none / 0)

Tipped and Rec'ed. Thanks for posting. I'm standing up for Hillary.

by grlpatriot on Fri May 30, 2008 at 10:32:04 AM EST

Re: Will the real Democrats please stand up? (none / 0)

count all the votes in Florida and Michigan- (Give all the Uncommited votes to Obama).
Seat half of the Delegates in Michigan and Florida.

by nkpolitics on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:01:00 PM EST

You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.